In the next few episodes Lucia Scazzocchio from Social Broadcasts explores 'the art of conversation'. As we become more connected and paradoxically more isolated, face to face conversation is increasingly rare and coveted. Especially now. This episode explores the role of conversation in faith leadership and practice with Claire MacDonald; artist, writer and Unitarian Minister at Lewisham Unity. She suggests that her role as a faith leader is to ‘create a conversational space across communities’ and that being part of Unity isn't so much about what you believe in, but more about what you practice. This exploratory conversation meanders through thoughts around tools for conviviality, the role of ritual and how that conversational space is found or created.